法官会坐在那里 The judge will be sat there.
陪审团会在那边 The jury's going to be over there.
而被告人 And the defendants,
他们会坐在那个隔板后面 they're going to be behind a screen there.
但你不会在这里 But you won't be in here.
你会和我在另外一个房间 You'll be in a separate room with me.
那天我能出去抽烟吗 Can I go out for a fag, on the day?
当然能 休息的时候 Course you can. When there's a break.
如果我需要上厕所呢 What if I need the toilet?
我得憋着吗 Have I got to hold it in?
如果你需要暂停 你提出来就行了 If you need to stop, all you have to do is ask.
根据真实故事改编
本剧根据大量调研采访和媒体报道改编
庭审中所说的话均摘自庭审记录
前情提要
露比怀孕了 Ruby is pregnant.
一个儿童保护登记册上的13岁的孩子 13-year-old on the Child Protection Register.
被一个有家室的三十多岁的男人搞怀孕了 Pregnant by a mid-30s man with a family of his own.
我可以提供他的名字 地址和车牌号 I can tell you his name, his address, his licence plate.
我们可以定那帮人的罪 玛姬 'We can get convictions here, Maggie,
只要我们能让那些姑娘重新作证 'if we can re-engage the girls.'
所以你想让我帮你们 So, you want me to help you?
-是 -你从没帮过我 我为什么要帮你 - Yeah, we do. - You never helped me. Why would I do that?
如果陪审团不相信她 If a jury's not going to believe her?
我们为什么要做这种假设 Why are we making that assumption?
霍莉很清楚会是这个结局 'Holly was fully aware that this would be the outcome.
在我们评估情况这段期间 她会住在寄养机构 'She'll be in foster care while we assess the situation.'
我做不下去了 I can't do no more.
你可以的 You can.
他们不会用安波尔 但他们会用露比 They're not using Amber, but they're going to use Ruby.
我不会"用"任何人 I'm not using anyone.
九项无罪抗辩 'Nine not-guilty pleas.
意味着九次交叉盘问 'Which means nine cross-examinations,
意味着会有九个不同的律师 'which means nine different barristers
告诉这些女孩她们所说的每一个字都是谎言 'telling these girls that every word they're saying is a lie.'
她们应付得了吗 Are they up to it?
三个女孩 第一季 第三集
再见 Bye.
那边真是疯狂 It is mad there.
说什么呢 What is?
法庭 Court!
但当天我不会在法庭现场 But I won't be in the actual court on the day,
我会自己在一个房间里 I'll be in a room on me own.
来 Come on.
我们去吃点儿外婆的蛋糕 Let's go and get some of Nana's cake.
这都是为了帮我度过审讯过程 It's all about supporting me through the process.
反正那个警察一直这么说的 Well, that's what the copper kept on saying.
我也可以出去抽烟 And I can go out for a fag, too.
如果他们不想让我当证人 If they didn't want me to be a witness,
那一开始为什么求我去 why did they, like, beg me to do in first place?
我并不想让她做这事 I don't want her doing it.
是她说不想让那些询问录像都白费了 It's her saying she don't want all them interviews going to waste.
我的那些都白费了 几个月的询问 Mine did. Months of them.
你知道吗 我真的 真的 真的 Do you know what? I really, really, really...
不在乎了 don't give a fuck.
我还以为到死都看不到这案子开审了 I thought I'd see Hell freeze over before this got to trial.
今天的内容是 在陪审团前宣誓 Today's going to be about swearing in the jury
我们的诉讼律师 瑞秋 and Rachel, our prosecution barrister,
会起身概述我们的案件 standing up and outlining our case.
霍莉 你是皇家检察署的第一证人 Holly, you're the first witness for the Crown,
所以你会第一个被传唤 so you'll be called first.
根据今天的进度 So, depending on what gets done today,
你很可能明天会出庭 in all likelihood you'll be going in
开始作证 to start giving your evidence tomorrow.
我们得给苏珊娜打电话 We'll need to phone Suzanne.
苏珊娜是谁 Who's Suzanne?
我有些事要做 I have to do stuff.
参加戒酒互助会那些 这样才能把埃拉接回来 Go to AA meetings and that to get Ella back.
如果你缺席一次 他们就会记下来 They write it down if you miss one.
你不会见到他们任何一个人 You're not going to see any of them.
你知道的 对吗 You know that, don't you?
都是通过视频连接 你只要继续 It'll all be by video link and you're just going to carry on
做这么多年来你一直在做的事 doing what you've been doing for years.
说出真相 Telling the truth.
那十二名普通人 And those 12 ordinary men and women
会相信你 are going to believe you.
好 Right.
明早见 I'll see you bright and early tomorrow.
人渣 恋童癖 Scum! Paedo!
清真肉
滚回你们自己的国家 Get back to your own country!
你要倒霉了 你这个混蛋巴基佬 You're going down, you Paki bastard!
就是这个混蛋巴基佬提起诉讼的 你个白痴 He's the Paki bastard who brought the prosecution, you dickhead.
谢谢 但别再叫我'混蛋巴基佬'了 Cheers, but don't call me a 'Paki bastard" again.
对不起 Sorry.
全体起立 All rise.
开始了 It's started.
英国广播公司的网站登了 It's on BBC website.
-《曼彻斯特晚间新闻》头版也是 -吉姆 - Front page of Manchester Evening News. - Jim.
今天我们多找点儿事做吧 Let's keep busy today, eh?
想去逛街买点儿东西吗 Fancy going down the shops for a few bits and bobs?
我还是上楼吧 I might just go upstairs.
霍莉·温肖现在19岁 Holly Winshaw is now 19.
该案涉及时期开始时 At the start of the time period with which you are concerned,
她15岁 she was 15 years old,
结束时 她17岁 and at the end of that period, she was 17.
露比·鲍温现在16岁 Ruby Bowen is now 16.
起诉期开始的前两天 Her 13th birthday was two days
是她13岁生日 before the start of the indictment period,
结束时 她15岁 and at the end of that period, she was 15.
你们将听到关于这些女孩的个人情况 You will hear evidence about these girls' personal circumstances
及行为的证据 and their behaviour.
霍莉·温肖与其父母不合 Holly Winshaw had fallen out with her parents
性虐待开始发生时 and was mostly living away from home
她大多数时间都不在家中生活 when the sexual exploitation of her began.
露比·鲍温的童年生活很艰难 Ruby Bowen had had a difficult and troubled childhood
因此产生了一些问题 and has a number of problems as a result.
听完她们对自己的描述 You will have to decide,
以及对他人的描述后 having heard their own descriptions of themselves
你们要做出决定 and the descriptions of other people,
她们是否像一些被告所说的 whether their characters and their behaviour
因为性格和行为 makes them unreliable witnesses
是不可信的证人 as some of the defendants may say.
还是像控方所说 这不过证实了 Or whether as the prosecution say, it simply confirms
正是这种女孩 that they were exactly the sort of children
最容易被这些男人视为 who were easy to identify, target and exploit
诱奸和性虐的目标 for the sexual gratification of these men.
安波尔·鲍温 'Amber Bowen,
露比·鲍温的姐姐 现在19岁 the older sister of Ruby Bowen, is now 19.
控方将试图证明 'The prosecution will argue
她是本案的重要人物 'that she's an important person in this case.
她也和成年男子发生了关系 'She was also having sex with adult men
并因此得到免费食物和酒 'and getting food and alcohol for doing so,'
但她之后还积极帮那些男人 but she moved on to playing an active role in helping men -
包括在座的几名被告 including some of these defendants
性虐待其他女孩 to sexually exploit the other girls.
女士们先生们 That, ladies and gentlemen,
这就是控方将要你们审理的案件的概述 is the outline of the prosecution case that we'll put before you,
明早从第一证人霍莉·温肖开始 starting with the first witness, Holly Winshaw, tomorrow morning.
她准备好了吗 Is she ready?
我不能说她准备好了 I can't say she is, no.
你想不想... Do you want to...?
她不愿意换衣服 抱歉 She won't get dressed. I'm sorry.
你吃早餐了吗 Have you had any breakfast?
我还没 Well, I've not.
我们吃什么呢 What are we having?
培根三明治 Bacon butty.
那麻烦来两个吧 朱丽 Two of them, then, please, Julie.
整个国家都急切等待着这场审判 The whole bloody country's waiting on this trial...
她却在楼上睡懒觉 and she's up there having a lie-in!
妮娜知道自己在干什么 Nina knows what she's doing.
没必要逼她 等她愿意再说吧 No point pushing her until she's ready.
她在哪儿 Where is she?
给妮娜打个电话 好吗 Worth giving Nina a ring?
《泰晤士报》的安德鲁·诺福克 Andrew Norfolk, from The Times.
第一证人似乎还没有出现 Looks like the first witness hasn't turned up.
我之后再给你打回去 I'll phone back later.
安德鲁 每次我翻开《泰晤士报》 Andrew, every time I open The Times,
都能见到你的名字署在诱奸文章下 there's your by-line on grooming.
-这是件大事 -是吗 - It's a big story. - Is it?
这是件大事 还是只是看起来这样而已 Is it a big story? Or does it just seem that way
因为报道铺天盖地 because there's so much reporting on it?
你不得不承认 You must admit,
这是给英国国家党和外面那群人的一份大礼 it's a gift for the BNP and all that lot out there.
"无辜的白人受害者""有色皮肤的施虐者" "Innocent white victims", "Dark-skinned abusers".
这很让人不适 对吧 It's uncomfortable, isn't it?
我只是不明白有什么意义 I just don't see what it achieves.
她来了 She's here.
忽略他们 忽略他们 忽略他们 Ignore them, ignore them, ignore them and ignore them.
请坐 Take a seat.
证人间
他们必须听到你说话 但不用看见你 They need to hear you, but they don't need to see you.
你想用帘子遮一下吗 Would you like a curtain?
不用 No.
你好 霍莉 Hello, Holly.
能看见我 听清我说话吗 Can you see and hear me?
能 Yes.
好 这样很好 OK, that's a good start.
传达员会帮你发誓 The usher should help you to swear an oath.
有人跟你解释过这一程序了吗 Has that been explained to you?
不能只做动作回应 霍莉 Er, rather than gestures, Holly,
为了方便速记员记录 你得说话 you'll have to speak words for ease of the transcribers.
好 Yeah.
我向上帝发誓 我在庭上所述之言皆为事实 "I swear, by Almighty God, that the evidence I shall give
字字千真万确 绝无虚言 "shall be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth."
诸位陪审团成员 Members of the jury,
首先由控方展示证据 the prosecution will now present its evidence in chief,
是与证人霍莉·温肖的 which takes the form of recorded interviews
访谈录音 with the witness, Holly Winshaw.
你知道你今天来找我 'Now do you understand what it is
说什么事吗 'that you've come to speak to me about today?
知道 'Yeah.
好 你觉得是什么事 'OK, and what do you think that's about?
说 那天在顶级咖喱店... 'About what happened at, um...
那个男人的事 'with...the men...at Top Curry.
在顶级咖喱店那个男人的事 'About what happened with the men at Top Curry.
好的 我必须问你一些问题 'OK. Obviously, I've got to ask you some questions
关于他们在性爱中对你做的事 好吗 'about what they actually did to you during the sex, OK?
那很疼 'It hurt.
因为我不愿意 'Because I didn't want to do it.
塔里克开始带我们去不同的地方 'Tariq started taking us places.
他开始来接我们 然后... 'He started picking us up and...
安波尔还以为他是她男朋友 'Amber thought that he was her boyfriend.
他来接你们的时候 'So, what did you think was going to happen
你觉得会发生什么 when he picked you up?
我不知道他是要带我们去和别人上床 'I didn't actually know he was taking us to have sex.
他说"别哭" "你真美" 'He said, "Don't cry" and he said, "You're beautiful".
他压到你身上时 And so, when he got on top of you,
你做了什么 'what was you doing?
我试着挣脱 'I were trying to move...
但我放弃了 'but I just gave up.
因为那又有什么用呢 'Because what was the point in trying?
那你对之后 'And what did you think about the fact
与另外的男性发生关系是什么感受 'that it started then with different men?
我已经不在乎了 'I weren't even bothered any more.
什么意思 'Right, what do you mean by that?
我那时已经没有任何感觉 'I didn't feel anything about it.
为什么会这样 'Why do you think you felt like that?
因为这种情形已经持续太久了 'Because it had been going on for so long.'
今天我想代表沙比尔·阿迈德 I want to ask you some questions today
问你几个问题 on behalf of Shabir Ahmed,
就是你们认识时 他被称为"老爹"的人 who you were introduced to by a nickname - "Daddy"?
在我问你 你指控老爹做了什么之前 Before I ask you about what you say Daddy did,
我想先问问你的家庭背景 I want to ask you something about your background.
2008年6月前后 是什么原因导致 What caused the big falling out you had with your parents,
你和你父母闹翻了 in around June 2008?
我没有遵守家规 I didn't really stick to the rules.
那段时间你晚上经常和一帮女孩出去玩 And you were going out with a gang of girls at night,
对吗 were you not?
是的 Yeah.
你那时经常吃白食 对吗 You were free-loading, were you not?
喝免费的酒 Getting free booze.
所以 酒还有钱 对吗 So, alcohol and money?
是的 Yeah.
之后 嘲笑他们 And then, mocking them.
在快捷烤肉店和顶级咖喱制造麻烦 对吗 Creating problems in Speedy Kebab and Top Curry?
我不认为我当时是在制造麻烦 I wouldn't say that I was creating problems.
那你们一群人没有在醉酒后到快捷烤肉店 Was there not a crowd of you that was going to Speedy Kebab,
大声喧哗 drunk and loud
并做出极其恶劣的行为吗 and behaving very badly?
我们没有很多人 There's wasn't a crowd of us.
每次只有两三个人 There was about two or three at a time
而且是外卖店的人 and it was the men in the takeaway shop
给我们买酒把我们灌醉的 that bought us the alcohol to get drunk on.
我希望你明白 我要提出 I want you to understand that I am going to be suggesting
老爹从未给过你们酒 也从未给你们 that Daddy never gave you or bought you
买过任何酒 any alcohol at all
那段期间和其他任何时间都没有 over that period or any other time.
这是实情 是吗 That is the truth of the matter, is it not?
不是 No.
你之前跟警方说 他试图强奸你时 You told the police that when he was trying to rape you,
你本想 you were trying to,
"笑笑装没事 边笑边说拒绝" "Like, laugh it off, giggling and saying no."
是这样吗 Is that right?
是的 我想笑着拒绝 Well, yeah. I was trying to say no in, like,
因为我不想很严肃地说出来 因为... Because I didn't want to say it in, like, a stern way, cos...
我不想惹怒他 ..I didn't want to offend him.
而且我很害怕 And I was scared.
因为如果我很严厉地拒绝他 Because if I said it, like, nastily to him,
我不知道他会做出什么 所以我... I didn't know what he would do, so I just, like...
但他没有住手 But he just didn't stop.
你那里有纸巾吗 霍莉 Have you got a tissue there, Holly?
谢谢 Thanks.
如果当时情况如你所说 Had you not tried to shout for help
你为什么没有大声呼救 if this was happening?
你正被强奸啊 You were being raped.
我什么都没有说 因为我很害怕 I didn't want to say anything because I was scared.
这件事并没有发生 是不是 霍莉 This incident did not happen, did it, Holly?
不 真的发生了 Yeah, it did.
-你说你当时喊"放开我" -是的 - You say that you were shouting, 'Get off me"? - Yeah.
有没有可能 It could not have been the case
你其实喊的是 that what you were actually shouting was,
"叫那个混蛋把钱给我" "Tell that bastard to give me my money"?
不是 No.
你不承认 是不是因为那句话会暴露 No, because that would suggest, would it not,
你生气的是他没给你钱 that what you were upset about was not being paid,
而不是发生了性关系 rather than the sex.
你记不记得说过我的委托人是"巴基混蛋" Do you remember calling my client a "Paki bastard" ?
我不会的 I wouldn't.
我不会说那种话 I wouldn't say something like that.
让我提醒一下你 在这些事件发生的期间 I suggest to you, Miss Winshaw, that at the time of these events,
你的生活是一团糟 不是吗 your life was a bit of a mess, was it not?
-你经常在外面醉酒 对吗 -是的 - You were out getting drunk regularly, were you not? - Yeah.
你有很多个晚上 And you had been in so many different places
都和不同的男性 on so many different nights
在不同的地方过夜 with so many different men,
所以你不过是犯了一个错误 that you simply made a mistake,
-对吗 -不是的 - did you not? - No.
请你跟我描述一下你叫他"老虎"的这个人 霍莉 Can you describe the man you call "Tiger" to me, Holly.
你说 "他是亚裔 很明显" You said, "He's Asian, obviously.
"他梳着偏分的发型" "He's got, like, a side parting in his hair.
"和大多数亚裔一样 个头小" "Like a lot of them, small."
你说的"个头小"是指他的身高吧 对吗 I think that's his height you're talking about there, is it not?
很快就能结束了 你做得很好 Not long to go now. You're doing great.
控制情绪 再坚持一天 Just hold your nerve. One more day.
我最爱的姑娘们 My favourite girls!
你很漂亮 'You're beautiful.
你什么时候才肯和我上床 'When you going to let me have sex with you?
我不会的 'I'm not.'
你跟他走 You're going with him.
-霍莉 你跟他走 -不 - Holly, you're going with him. - No...
我是阿卜杜勒·阿齐兹的律师 I'm the barrister for Abdul Aziz.
也就是你认识的"塔里克" Who you knew as "Tariq".
在那些你知道 Of all the girls that you knew
和你过着同样生活的女孩里 who were conducting that sort of lifestyle,
毫无疑问 你是最漂亮的 without doubt, you were the prettiest.
你比安波尔漂亮很多 You're much prettier than Amber,
对吗 are you not?
好的 我就... Yes. Well, I will...
不为难你了 ..spare your blushes,
我们换一种问法 and we can deal with this in a different way.
安波尔·鲍温 Amber Bowen.
就是她带你过上 Now, she was the one who introduced you
你控诉的这种生活吗 to this...lifestyle that you complain of?
对 是她 Yeah. She was.
是她把你介绍给了那些 She was the one who introduced you to the men
-你控告的男人吗 -是的 - that you complain of, yes? - Yeah.
她从那些你控告的男人 She was the one who was getting payments
手里获得了报酬 对吗 for the men that you make these complaints against?
是的 但其中几个也... Yeah, she was, but some of them were getting...
其中几个男的也拿了钱 ..Some of the men were getting payments, as well.
所以在这整个过程中 So, in the scheme of things,
安波尔的行为要比被告方更恶劣 Amber was worse than the men that you accuse,
至少也可以说 她和你控告的那些男人 and at any rate, she was no less culpable
同样难辞其咎 than the men that you accuse?
-你什么意思 -至少她和他们一样坏 - How do you mean? - She was at least as bad as they were?
从某些方面来说 是的 In some ways.
在其他方面 他们更坏 In other ways, they were worse.
你的证词我没理解错的话 霍莉 If I've understood your evidence correctly, Holly, is that...
你们会去一个地方 ..You would go to an address
事先知道会发生性关系 knowing that sex was about to take place, sex would take place.
之后安波尔会收钱 Amber would collect money.
然后联系塔里克 他会去接你和安波尔 Tariq would be called, he would collect you and Amber,
最后会给塔里克钱 是这样吗 and money would be given to Tariq. Is that what happened?
对 没错 Yeah. Yes.
所以 安排这一切的人是安波尔 So, it was Amber who was controlling the arrangement.
是安波尔安排了性交易 It was Amber who was arranging sex.
是安波尔安排了接送 It was Amber who was arranging transport.
-我认为是他们两个一起安排的 -理由是... - I think it were both of them together. - And that is because. . . ?
因为如果都是她干的 Because if it was just her doing it,
她为什么要给他钱呢 why would she give him the money?
其实事实是这样的 对吗 霍莉 The reality is this, is it not, Holly?
你对所发生的这一切感到十分自责 That you feel profoundly very guilty about what's gone on.
我不觉得自责 因为我什么也没做错 I don't feel guilty because I didn't do anything wrong.
可能是我没看懂你的证词 It may just be that I've read your evidence badly,
但你的确在不同场合表示过 but you do say, at a number of places,
你感到自责 that you feel guilty...
因为你没为自己挺身而出 ..Because you didn't stand up for yourself.
因为你没有保护好自己 Did not defend your corner.
是的 我没有 Yeah, I didn't.
我很羞愧 I feel ashamed.
我也很愤怒 因为我没有尽力反抗 And I feel angry that I didn't try more.
因为很显然 在我现在这个年纪 已经过了几年后 Because, obviously, at my age, a few years later...
如果类似的事情再次发生 ..If something like that were to happen again,
我会竭尽我所能 I would do everything in my power
来确保这种悲剧不会重演 to make sure it wouldn't happen again.
现在你感到羞愧 NOW you feel ashamed.
为发生的事感到自责 是吗 Guilty for what's gone on, yes?
我并不自责 我只是羞愧 I don't feel guilty, I feel ashamed.
这些年来 因为安波尔领你进入的 And you've been the subject, over the years,
这种生活方式 你一直被人们奚落 of ridicule for this lifestyle that you entered with Amber.
人们讥讽你 谩骂你 People were calling you names.
所以你就用这种方式 来洗白这一切 And this is a way, really of just cleansing all of that.
用这种方式告诉他们 "知道吗 Of saying to them, "Well, you know what,
事实上 我并没什么好羞愧的 In fact, I've got nothing to be ashamed of,
因为我是被强奸的" because I was raped."
这才是你上诉的真实原因 是吗 That's what this is really all about, is it not?
我不在乎别人 I don't care about them.
我不在乎别人怎么说 I don't care about what people say.
事情过去四年了 It's four years later now.
四年 Four years.
我有了个女儿 I've got a daughter.
有自己的人生 I've got a life.
我没什么好"洗白"的 I...don't need "cleansed".
我要的是公平 I want justice.
我看起来怎么样 Do I look all right?
真漂亮 Really nice.
很得体 Proper smart.
-我在这里等着 -好 - I'm going to go wait in 'ere. - 0K.
警察5分钟后就要来了 Police'll be here in five minutes.
你如果不想看到他们 Why don't you go for a walk round the block
-就到附近散散步 -我不在乎 - if you don't want to see them. - I don't care.
看到他们你会生气的 It's just going to make you angry.
-你会心烦 宝宝也会因此不开心 -不 我不会的 - It'll upset you, and that'll upset her. - No, it won't.
他们觉得我算不上个"好"受害者 I don't care if they've decided I'm not a good enough,
我不在乎 like, victim or whatever.
因为我是个好妈妈 Cos I'm a good mum.
我真的很称职 I'm actually good.
我现在脑子里想的都是孩子 And that's where my head's going.
而不是那些陈芝麻烂谷子的事了 Not on all this that happened years ago.
全体起立 All rise.
说吧 露比 'Come on, Ruby.
他们把你当皮球一样传来传去 'They pass you around like a ball.
他们拿到你电话号码 然后就会有 'They, like, get your number, and then, there's like...
几十个陌生人打给你 '..50 people you don't know ringing you.
那是什么意思 露比 'What do you mean, Ruby?
"他们把你当皮球一样传来传去" "They pass you around like a ball"?
他们会在公寓里 'They'd, like, be in a flat
围坐成一个圈 'in...in a massive circle...
让白人女孩站在中间 '..And then, they put the white girl in the middle.'
白人女孩站在中间 White girl in the middle...
然后其中一人会把你带走 'And then you'd get sent off with one of them.
等你回来后 'And then, when you come back,
你又会 'you just...
被传给下一个人 一个又一个 'just get passed and passed again.'
一个又一个 一个又一个 Passed and passed again... Passed and passed...
-这间公寓在哪里 -一个又一个 - 'And where was the flat?' - passed and passed...
不止一间 'There weren't one.
有很多间 'There were loads.'
不止一间 有很多间 There weren't one... There were loads...
有很多间 There were loads...
-露比 你能看到我吗 -能 - Ruby, can you see me all right? - Yeah.
能听清楚吗 And can you hear me OK?
能 Yes.
我是被你称为"比利"那个人的辩护律师 I am the barrister who is helping the man that you call Billy,
我代表他想请你回答几个问题 and I'd like to ask you some questions for him, please.
你跟我们说过 你和比利交往了 Now, you told us that you were in a relationship with Billy
几个月时间 for a few months
当时他是你男友 对吗 and that he was your boyfriend, yes?
没错 Yes.
你当时告诉他你16岁 对吗 And that you told him you were 16?
没错 Yeah.
随着时间推移 你觉得你爱上他了 And as time went on, you felt like you were in love with him,
是吗 did you not?
你在点头 You're nodding.
那他当时看起来是不是也很喜欢你 And did it seem like he really liked you a lot, as well?
没错 Yeah.
那么 你之前谈到 Now then, when you have talked about
和比利交往 when you have been with Billy,
及发生性行为那段时间时 你说过 and you have had sex with him, you have talked about
你们曾亲密依偎 cuddling up with him,
开心大笑 性行为也很愉悦 是吗 having a laugh and having nice sex, have you not?
是的 Yeah.
你还说过 比利不同于你交往过的其他男人 And that Billy, he was different from the other men that you met,
因为你告诉我们 because you told us,
其他男人都只是... the other men, they were...
一夜情 One-night stands,
而比利 whereas Billy,
他是你真正的男友 对吗 he was a proper boyfriend, yes?
是的 Yeah.
我问完了 I have no more questions.
露比 Ruby!
你儿子出生前你就认识露比·鲍温了 对吗 You met Ruby Bowen before your son was born, is that right?
没错 Yes.
你从2008年10月开始和她发生性关系 And you had a sexual relationship with her from October 2008,
-对吗 -是的 - is that right? - Yes.
陪审团手里这两张照片 Two photographs in the jury bundle were taken
是露比·鲍温上九年级时拍的 when Ruby Bowen was in year 9.
你当时就是和这个女孩 That is the girl with whom
发生性关系 对吗 you had a sexual relationship, is it not?
从照片上来看 我不能否认 I don't deny the fact, from looking at the picture,
就是这个女孩 that that's the same girl.
这些照片是在她13和14岁时拍的 These photographs were taken when she was 13 and 14.
你当真要跟陪审团说 Are you seriously saying to this jury
你当时以为她有20到25岁吗 that you thought she was 20 to 25 years old?
阿迈德先生 你对所有指控都予以否认吗 Mr Ahmed, do you deny all of the allegations?
我否认所有指控 I deny everything.
但如你向陪审团所言 你承认 But you accept, as you've told this jury,
作为证物的那些内裤上 that the forensic evidence
沾有你的精液 has your semen on those items of underwear?
霍莉·温肖是从哪里拿到你的精液的 Where did Holly Winshaw get your semen from?
我和安波尔有过性关系 I had a sexual relationship with Amber,
如果安波尔拿了避孕套 and, if Amber took a condom,
这个姓温肖的女孩 this Winshaw girl,
非常聪慧 机灵 聪明 very clever, very sharp, intelligent,
无所不知 knows everything,
谁知道她做了什么 who knows what she did.
霍莉为什么要编造证据指控你 Why would Holly fabricate evidence against you?
她们一起加入这个行业的 They get into this business together.
她们决定合伙 They decide on this joint venture together
而且也做得成功 and they carry it out very well.
她们挣了许多钱 They're making a lot of money,
之后她和安波尔闹翻了 就... and then she falls out with Amber, and...
对警方而言 这是个好机会 It's very nice and very easy for policemen,
因为他们想借机升官发财 because they want to climb the ladder of their career.
去他妈的巴基斯坦人 Fuck the Pakistanis.
-阿迈德先生 能不能别扯远... -不 - Mr Ahmed, can we stick to... ? - No.
不 不行 No, we can't.
你们那些有罪的白人在哪里 Where are your white people?
是他们教会她们性爱 They train them in sex,
从小就教她们学会喝酒 they train them in drinking from very young age,
然后 等她们来找我们时 and then, when they come to us,
到那时 她们已经什么都学会了 by that time, they're fully trained.
你们应该照照镜子 You should look in mirror.
首先审视一下自己 Look at yourself first.
看看你们的社区 Look at your community.
学校在哪儿 Where's school?
社会福利部门在哪儿 Where's Social Services?
其他人都到哪儿去了 Where is everybody else?
你跟她在一起时特别美 You're lovely with her.
你对你们的将来有什么打算 How do you see your future together?
我想去上大学 I'd like to go to college.
我想离开罗奇代尔 I'd like to move away from Rochdale.
你觉得这可行吗 Does that feel achievable?
可行 Yeah.
我们不会再让你等下去了 霍莉 We'll not keep you in suspense any longer, Holly.
我们会保留监护权 We're going to keep the care order in place,
但我们会和你共同负担责任 but we'll have joint responsibility with you.
这是什么意思 What does that mean?
埃拉会回到你身边 Ella's going to be coming home to you.
我们想让她平稳过渡 We want it to be a smooth transition for her,
所以我们会联系寄养家庭 so we'll liaise with the foster family
从下周开始安排相关事宜 and start making arrangements next week.
好的 All right.
你一直很努力 霍莉 You've worked really hard, Holly.
我们对你充满信心 We've got every confidence in you.
碰到这类复杂的案件 In a complex case like this one,
我们推测陪审团要花上数周时间才能有结果 where we'd expect the jury to be out for some weeks,
这次简报是让媒体有机会 this briefing is an opportunity for members of the press
提出庭审时可能产生的问题 to ask any questions that may have arisen during trial.
是的 这一位 Yep, over here, yep.
为什么霍莉在2008年首次向警方报案时 Why didn't the CPS prosecute this case in 2008
皇家检控署没有对此案提起诉讼 when Holly Winshaw first went to the police?
当时 我们认为 At that time, it was considered
没有定罪的确凿证据 that there was an unrealistic prospect of conviction.
现在有何不同 What changed?
这次庭审的关键证据 The key evidence used in this trial,
你们2008就有了 you had in 2008.
犯罪者得以在之后两年中继续 The perpetrators were allowed to continue offending
侵害受害者 for a further two years.
皇家检控署为何要销案 Why did the CPS drop the case?
是因为犯罪者的种族吗 Was there an issue around the ethnicity of the perpetrators?
不是 是因为证人出了问题 There was an issue around the witness, not the perpetrators.
事实上 最初 What happened is that, initially,
一名皇家检察署律师认为 a CPS lawyer formed the view
证人不可信 that the witness would not be credible.
这是案子没能提交到法院的原因 That's why the case didn't progress to court.
去年我来到检察署 改变了那个决定 I came here last year and I reversed that decision.
我重新审视 I looked at it afresh
得出了不同的结论 and I formed a different view.
她绝对可信 That she was ABSOLUTELY credible.
阿夫扎尔先生 Mr Afzal,
你认为你们背叛了霍莉·温肖吗 would you say that Holly Winshaw was betrayed?
我不介意向她道歉 I have no difficulty in apologising to her.
让她失望的是这整个系统 She was let down by the whole system
而我们身处该系统之中 and we were part of that system.
她们来了 来了 They're here! They're here!
霍莉 霍莉 快来 Holly! Holly, come quick!
她们来了 They're here!
今早她想打扮打扮自己 She decided to dress herself this morning...
要是你好奇她为什么戴了帽子的话 ..In case you're wondering why she's got on that hat.
妈咪 Mummy...
请陪审团团长起立 Will the foreman please stand?
陪审团是否得出了结论 Have the jury reached a verdict on any count?
是的 Yes.
在英国境内诱拐儿童进行性交易这项罪名 On the charge of trafficking within the United Kingdom
你们认为 for sexual exploitation,
被告人沙比尔·阿迈德 do you find the defendant, Shabir Ahmed,
是否有罪 guilty or not guilty?
有罪 Guilty.
好一个有偏见的陪审团 You're a biased jury!
种族歧视 Racist!
强奸儿童这项罪名 On the charge of rape of a child,
你们认为被告人沙比尔·阿迈德是否有罪 do you find the defendant, Shabir Ahmed, guilty or not guilty?
有罪 Guilty.
混蛋 混蛋 Ya bastard! YA BASTARD!
带他去牢房 Take him to the cells.
放开我 Get off me!
放开我 Get your hands off me!
放开我 Get off me!
卡比尔·哈桑 Kabeer Hassan?
对于强奸儿童这项罪名 On the count of rape of a child,
你们认为被告人有罪还是无罪 do you find the defendant guilty or not guilty?
有罪 Guilty.
阿卜杜勒·劳夫 Abdul Raulf?
有罪 Guilty.
穆罕默德·沙吉德 Mohammed Sajid?
有罪 Guilty.
穆罕默德·阿明 Mohammed Amin?
有罪 Guilty.
阿迪尔·可汗 Adil Khan?
诱奸儿童 On the count of conspiring
这项罪名 to engage in sexual activity with a child?
-你们认为被告是否有罪 -有罪 - Do you find the defendant guilty or not guilty? - Guilty.
阿卜杜勒·阿齐兹 Abdul Aziz?
被英国境内诱拐儿童 On the count of trafficking within the United Kingdom
进行性交易这项罪名 for sexual exploitation.
你们认为被告是否有罪 Do you find the defendant guilty or not guilty?
有罪 Guilty.
对于强奸儿童的罪名 On the count of rape of a child.
你们认为被告人是否有罪 Do you find the defendant guilty or not guilty?
有罪 Guilty.
你能帮我照看下埃拉吗 Would you watch Ella for me?
还好吗 All right?
还好吗 'All right?'
还不知道 要看你接下来要说什么 Dunno, yet. Depends what you're going to say next.
我要说他们被判有罪 'I'm going to say guilty.
每一个参与了该事件的人 'Every single one of them involved with you.
都被判有罪 'Guilty.'
你还在吗 You there?
往右边看看 Look to your right.
我给你家打了电话 你妈妈说你在这里 I called your house. Your mum said you were here.
你还是不敢相信 对吗 You can't take it in, can ya?
我也一样 Neither can I.
我什么感觉都没有 I don't feel anything.
你会有的 当你给埃拉洗澡或做意面 You will do. You'll be bathing Ella or making some pasta,
看电视或做别的事时 I don't know, watching telly...
你会突然感觉到的 ..And it's going to hit ya.
就像 "靠 这真的发生了吗" Like, "Fuck, this actually happened" ?
不 应该是 "靠 我居然做到了" No, like, "Fuck, I actually did this".
是你的功劳 霍莉 It were you, Holly.
是你一次又一次地告诉我 It were you speaking up again and again and again to me
告诉你的父母和警察 and to your dad and to the police
还坚强面对了九名律师的轰炸 and holding your own against nine bloody barristers!
是你的功劳 It were you.
19年了 19 years.
沙比尔·阿迈德 Shabir Ahmed...
19年 19 years...
抱歉 Sorry.
我很抱歉 I'm sorry.
我以前想过你未来的无数可能 I had all these ideas about you...
从你还只是这么高时就开始了 ..Since you were that high.
你会成为什么样的人 What you were going to be,
你会做什么工作 等等 what you were going to do and all that.
还有人们会怎么说你 And how people would say,
"吉姆的女儿 对 聪明的那个" "Jim's daughter, yeah, the smart one."
-"她做过这些 还有那些" -吉姆 - "She's gone on to do this, that and the other." - Jim!
但看见你 But seeing you do...
那几个月在法庭上 ..what you've done
做到的事 over them months in court.
在经历了那一切 Finding the strength to do what you did in there...
在遭遇了那么多事情后 ..After everything you've been through,
还能找到那样做的勇气 after everything that's happened to you.
那是我这辈子最自豪的时刻 That's the proudest moment of my life.
我对你是如此敬佩 I have got so much respect for you.
我对你脱帽致敬 I take my hat off to you.
脏成这样 我去拿个布子帮你擦擦 You are so messy. I'm going to get a cloth to wipe that up.
诱奸少女性侵团伙定罪
这是英国司法历史上值得铭记的事件 'This has been a fantastic result for British justice.
这些受害者经受了惨绝人寰的对待 'These victims have been through the most horrendous of crimes
我想表彰她们的勇气 'and I just want to commend their bravery
感谢她们勇敢面对了那些艰苦考验 'in relation to the ordeal they've had to go through.
庭审的那几个月很艰难 'A long number of weeks in court
她们被迫回忆了曾经的噩梦 'and they've had to go through a lot of trauma.
我还想感谢我的同事 'I would also like to thank my officers
他们面对复杂的案情 表现相当专业 'for the professionalism and dedication they have shown
投入了许多精力 'in a very complex inquiry.
这是英国历史上 'This is the first time in UK history
首次在境内出现非法诱拐儿童从事性交易 'that we've had trafficking within the UK.'
判决公布后我的营业额降了60% I've gone down 60% since the verdict.
大家宁愿等白人司机 Cos people would rather wait for a white driver
也不坐我的车 than get in me cab.
所以我们才建了这个互助组 That's why we set up this group.
让罗奇代尔市民联合起来 To bring the people of Rochdale together.
这是个很适宜居住的城市 This is a great place to live
罗奇代尔市政厅 社区会议
如今我们应该正视问题 and it's time, now, to focus on the positive.
住在附近的人肯定知道当时发生了什么 People in the community must have known what was going on.
-你意思是我当时知情吗 -不 我的意思是... - Are you saying that I knew about this? - No, what I'm saying is...
相信我 我要是知情 绝对亲自把他们抓起来 Cos, believe me, if I had, I'd have rounded 'em up meself
亲自把他们扭送警察局 and took 'em down to police station meself.
那些人不愿意坐你的车 You see the people who won't get in your cab now,
就是种族歧视 that's just racist.
他们的意思就是巴基斯坦人都一个样 That's them saying that all Pakistanis are the same.
这里不存在种族问题 Ethnicity is not an issue here.
这不是问题 而是事实 It's not an issue. It's a fact.
性犯罪者大多数是白人男性 The vast majority of sex offenders are white male.
其中90%都是独自作案 90% are British white males acting on their own.
但此次案件 But in this particular type of crime,
街头诱奸女童案 on-street grooming of vulnerable girls,
几乎全都是 it's overwhelmingly
英籍巴基斯坦裔男性团伙作案 British-Pakistani men acting together.
是啊 所以这事就怪我是吗 Right, and that's my responsibility, is it?
因为我也是英籍巴基斯坦裔 Cos I'm a British-Pakistani, too?
白人也曾为其他白人 Are white people ever asked to account
犯下的孽行背锅吗 for the deviant behaviour of other white people?
没有 No.
重点不在于犯罪者是不是巴基斯坦人 It isn't about whether the guys that did it are Pakistani.
而是一个13岁女孩为什么会去那间公寓 It's what the hell was a 13-year-old girl doing in that flat?
你在怪受害者 You're blaming the victim.
受害者本可能是你的妹妹或者女儿 That victim could have been your sister or your daughter.
不会 因为我妹妹或女儿 我们这些人的女儿 No. Cos my sister or my daughter - our daughters -
绝对不会穿着短裙走在街头巷尾 aren't hanging about on street corners in short skirts
胸部都露在外面 with their chests hanging out.
她们当时穿的是运动裤 那些女孩穿着校服 They were in trackie bottoms, these girls were in school uniform.
这些男人对待女性的态度很恶心 These men had disgusting attitudes towards women.
不只是白人女性 是所有女性 Not just white women. ALL women.
那只是很一小部分的英籍巴基斯坦人 That is a tiny, tiny proportion of British-Pakistanis.
我知道 I know.
但只要在罗奇代尔市 But as long as that attitude exists at all, here,
在我们的社区中存在这种态度 in Rochdale, in our community,
我们都会遭到波及 there'll be repercussions for all of us.
你们也许在新闻里看到过 'Now as you may have heard in the news,
罗奇代尔市儿童保护委员会 'the Rochdale Borough Safeguarding Children Board
今早已经发布了报道 'has published its report this morning
由于警察与社会福利部门不作为 'on the catalogue of failures in the police and Social Services
珍妮·穆雷采访罗奇代尔儿童保护委员会会长
导致一群女孩 'which led to the continued
长期以来被诱奸 grooming and rape of a number of girls.
罗奇代尔 商务合作的天堂
报道很清楚地写明 'The report is very clear about the failings
相关的组织和机构玩忽职守 'from all the organisations involved 'with the young people.
他们本可以也应该采取更多措施保护她们 There was more 'that could and should have been done to protect them.
但是《守护者》今早报道 'But The Guardian reports this morning
曾有性健康中心工作人员 'that 83 referrals were made
见过这些女孩 by a worried NHS Sexual Health Team,
并曾83次向相关部门反映案情 'who had obviously seen these girls.
为何没有人重视 为何没有人记录在案 'Why were they ignored and why are they not in your report?
如果有专业人员提出请求 'When professionals have got concerns
罗奇代尔性健康中心
却没有得到需要的回应 'and they're not getting the response that they need,
那么委员会有规定 其相关请求 'there is a board policy that says it should be escalated
应该提交给其组织领导和社会福利部门高层 'within their own organisation and within social care
很明显这条规定没有被妥善执行 'and that wasn't done satisfactorily, obviously.'
你这是怎么了 What's the matter with you?
开车过来的路上 Driving in, just heard someone
听到罗奇代尔儿童保护委员会在广播... from Rochdale Council Safeguarding Children on the radio...
说什么 他们"吸取教训"了吗 Saying what? Have they "learnt lessons"?
他们"学到了很多"吗 Have they "been on a journey"?
这件事他们绝对无法洗白 There's no spin on earth that they can put on this
不可能撇清关系 to make themselves look good.
他们说 They're saying...
我们没有把信息共享... we never shared information...!
什么 What?
我们没有把案情进一步提交 We didn't "escalate our concerns".
他们说他们并不知情 They're saying they didn't know
因为我们没告诉他们 because we didn't tell them.
不可能 No way.
他们怎么能这样 No way is this happening.
管理层肯定不会为我们说话 Management's not going to bat for us.
她说"别担心 莎拉" She's saying, "Oh, don't worry about it, Sara,
"总有一天真相会水落石出的" "The truth will come out at some point."
行 我们去找工会 Right. We're going to the union.
我感觉快疯了 I feel like I'm going mad.
疯的不是你 是其他人 It's not you. It's everybody else.
疯子都这么想 That's what mad people think.
你确实看起来有点... You do look a bit...
是因为兜帽 把帽子摘了吧 It's the hood. Let's take the hood down.
我不适合做这种事 你知道吗 I'm not cut out for this, you know?
揭发内幕 Whistle-blowing.
像穿着冲锋衣的艾琳·布劳克维奇 Erin Brockovich in an anorak!
《永不妥协》女主角
艾琳·布劳克维奇也挺需要穿件冲锋衣的 Erin Brockovich could have done with an anorak.
七年了 Seven years.
七年来 我一直在努力告诉人们真相 I've been telling people for seven years.
然而即便现在 他们仍旧不想知道 And even now, they just don't want to know.
会议室
先生 Sir.
我看着ACC在法庭上打了一场漂亮的仗 I watched the ACC on the steps of court tie it up in a bow.
行动非常成功 玛姬 Well, it was a very successful operation, Maggie.
但这还不是全部 是不是 But that's not the whole story, is it?
我向你保证 2008年洛奇代尔发生的那些失误 Well. You can be sure that whatever went on down in Rochdale in 2008
都会得到独立警察投诉委员会的妥善处理 will be fully dealt with by the IPCC.
但我说的是2005年的事 Yeah, but I'm talking about 2005.
大曼彻斯特警署至少从2005年就知道 GMP has known that they have a problem
存在街头诱奸幼女的问题 with on-street grooming since 2005, at least.
我知道 And, I know
因为我在2005年 because I was part of a...
也参与了调查工作 of a scoping exercise in 2005
调查大曼彻斯特 to see whether or not
是否存在诱奸幼女的问题 we had a problem in Greater Manchester with child grooming.
结果显示确有其事 And it found that we did.
但我们没有采取任何相应行动 But nothing was done about it.
调查被叫停 The investigation was dropped.
没人被拘留 There were no arrests.
没发起任何起诉 There were no prosecutions.
抱歉 玛姬 Sorry, Maggie.
你是在问问题 Is that a question...
还是抱怨 Or a grievance?
我对我们声称 I'm not comfortable with
了解与不知情的信息感到不安 what we're claiming we knew and didn't know.
我对我们对待受害者的方式感到不适 And I'm not comfortable with the way we're treating victims.
在2005年就是如此 现在也没变 I wasn't comfortable in 2005 and I'm not comfortable now.
这是关于安波尔·鲍温吗 Is this about Amber Bowen?
这是关于道德标准不允许我让脆弱的受害人 This is about the ethics of subjecting vulnerable witnesses
屈从于数月的审问 to months of questioning
接着没有任何解释 就丢下她们 and then dropping them with no explanation,
对她们所指认的犯罪者也没有采取任何行动 and no further action against anyone that they've named.
安波尔·鲍温是个特例 Amber Bowen is a very particular case.
不 她不是 No. She wasn't.
她也是受害者 She was a victim,
和其她女孩一样 just like the other girls.
但没有人因为伤害她 But no-one was ever arrested
而被逮捕 甚至连审讯都没有 or even interviewed in relation to what they did to her.
我知道你已经听到了很多次解释 Look, I know you've had this explained to you many times before.
是的 但从未让我对这个决定感到好受些 Yes, but not in a way that makes me feel any better about the decision.
但我决定再和你解释一遍 But I will go over it with you again.
根本不可能让那个女孩上庭作证 There was no way that girl was going in the witness box.
皇家检察署说得非常清楚了 CPS was absolutely clear about that
而且这事由他们说了算 and it was their call to make.
但是... But...
他们随后意识到 They then realised,
虽然我承认有些晚 a little bit late in the day, it must be said,
他们需要那女孩的证据 that they needed the girl's evidence.
因此他们不得不采取战略性方式 So, they had to find a tactical way
将证据呈到庭上 to introduce it at trial.
如果不让她出庭作证 How do you use someone's evidence
还怎么用她的证据 if you don't call them as a witness?
通过起诉她的方式 By putting them on the indictment.
安波尔被视为那些男人的同谋 Amber was named as one of the co-conspirators with the men.
什么 What?!
纯粹是战术 玛姬 It was purely tactical, Margaret.
没有人想真的起诉她 No-one was interested in prosecuting her.
她知道这事吗 有人想过告诉她一声吗 Does she know about this? Has anyone even bothered to tell her?!
我肯定她完全知情 I'm sure she was kept fully informed.
来了 All right!
-这都是什么 -你先拿着 - What's all this? - Can you just take it?
-搭把手 -怎么回事 - Help me! - What's happened?
你怎么了 What's wrong with you?
-他们想抢走她 -谁 谁要抢走她 - They're trying to take her. - Who are? Who's trying to take her?
社会服务处 他们找到了我 Social Services. They called me in.
他们想确定开庭日期 They're trying to get a court date.
别害怕 他们不能这样做 Don't be soft, they can't do that!
为什么呢 你是个很棒的母亲 What for? You're a brilliant mum!
他们说你干了什么 What they saying you've done?
他们不是说我做了什么 They're not saying I've done owt.
他们是说我以后有可能犯错 They're saying there's a risk that I could though.
说得好像我会做任何伤害她的事一样 As if I'd do anything to hurt her!
为什么是我 妈 为什么总是我 Why me, Mum? Why is it always me?!
-别开门 妈 别开 -也许是露比 - Don't open it, Mum. Don't! - It might be Ruby.
不 不是露比 露比有钥匙 No, it's not Ruby. Ruby's got keys.
-没事 是她 -求你了 妈 - No, it is her. - Please, Mum.
没事的 放心 别害怕 It's OK. All right. It's OK.
他们走了 已经走了 They've gone. They've gone.
洛娜 我是玛姬 Lorna? It's Maggie.
我是玛姬·奥利弗 玛姬 It's Margaret Oliver. Maggie.
你要干什么 What you doing?
现在还敢过来 Coming here? Now.
不回我的电话 不回我的短信 Didn't return me calls. Didn't reply to me texts.
你向我保证过的 You promised all sorts.
早该知道永远不能相信警察 Should've known never to trust the police.
我不是警察 I'm not the police.
那你为什么要来这儿 Then why you turning up here, then?
因为没有人能阻止我 Cos no-one can tell me not to.
我已经离开了大曼彻斯特警署 I've left GMP.
我辞职了 I've resigned.
我... I,
我不知道警察是怎么跟你说的 I...I don't know what the police told you
你不能上庭的原因 about why you didn't get to go to court.
我不在乎 I don't care.
-我现在完全不在乎那些事了 -他们什么都没说 - I don't give a shit about that now. - They didn't say nothing.
只说了 要让露比上庭 但安波尔不用 Just. . .They're using Ruby, but they're not using her.
那个决定 我坚决反对过 That decision, I strongly disagreed with it.
但那之后我就被调职了 But I got taken off the job after that
而且他们不许我再和你有任何联系 and ordered not to have any contact with you.
但到了某个时间 当局意识到 But at some point, the powers that be decided that
虽然他们不会让你上庭作证 though they weren't going to call you as a witness,
但仍然需要使用你的证据 they still needed to be able to use your evidence.
为了达到那个目的 And as a way of doing that,
皇家检察署对你提出了一条指控 you were named by the Crown on one of the charges.
你什么意思 How do you mean?
皇家检察署指控你 The Crown listed you alongside the men,
和其他男人一起 on charge of conspiracy
诱奸儿童 to engage in sexual activity with a child.
那意味着 What that means...
对于霍莉和露比还有其他女孩的遭遇 is that you were as responsible as the men
你和那些男人同罪 for what happened to Holly and Ruby and all the other girls.
他们说我是强奸犯吗 So, they're calling me a rapist?
你是这个意思吗 Is that what you're saying?
他们说我是恋童癖吗 They're calling me a paedophile?
所以现在才会发生这件事 That's why this is happening.
怎么了 发生了什么事 Why what's happening?
别告诉她 什么都不要说 Don't tell her. Don't tell her nothing.
他们想把亚丝明从她身边带走 They're trying to take Yasmin off her.
-为什么 -为什么 - Why? - Why?
你还问为什么 他们当然想抢走她了 Why? Course they want to take her off me.
不是因为我怎么她了 就只是因为... Not cos of owt I've done to her, just cos of...
我 ..Me.
我这个人 Who I am.
我的遭遇 What's happened to me.
本来他们不会得逞的 And they never could.
但现在 我被指控为性犯罪者 But now, I've been named as a fucking sex offender,
-我一点机会都没有了 -那绝不会发生的 - I have got no chance. - Well, that's not going to happen.
明天一早 你就去找个律师 First thing tomorrow, you're going to go and get a solicitor.
-我会陪你一起去 -你为什么在乎 - And I'm going to come with you. - Why do you care?
你到底为什么来这里 Why are you even here?
因为我辜负了你 Because I let you down.
我取得了你的信任 给了你承诺 然而... I gained your trust and I promised you things and...
我却背叛了你 ..I betrayed you.
你当时信任的人是我 It was ME you trusted.
你当时袒露心扉的对象是我 It was ME you poured your heart out to.
然而... And...
我很抱歉 ..I'm sorry.
因为那样对待别人是错的 Because that's not how you treat people.
那不是我成为警察的初衷 That's not why I became a police officer.
还有... And...
我之前作为警察帮不了你 I couldn't help you as a police officer.
-但也许现在 我可以帮到你 -为什么 - But, maybe, I can help you now. - Why?
因为你需要帮助 Because you need it.
也因为你应该得到帮助 And because you deserve it.
还有 And...
当这事最终被曝光 When it all comes out...
你和其他女孩的遭遇被公诸于世 一定会有那天 what's been done to girls like you - and it will
我希望回首时 可以说我站在正义的一边 I want to look back and say I was on the right side of it.
罗奇代尔市议会试图夺走露比的孩子 以失败告终
玛姬·奥利弗辞去警察职务 致力于为无助的诱奸案受害人发声
她一直是鲍温一家的朋友 为他们提供帮助
下议院 民政事务特别委员会
你认为罗奇代尔事件的失败 Do you think the failure in Rochdale
是因为能力不足 还是漠不关心 was due to incompetence or indifference ?
这里是特别委员会 我知道你会诚实作答 This is a Select Committee, and I know you will answer frankly,
罗伯森女士 Miss Rowbotham.
是因为对待青少年的态度 It was attitudes towards teenagers.
我们对青少年毫不尊重 It was absolute disrespect
无助的青少年没有话语权 that vulnerable young people did not have a voice.
他们被忽视 That they were overlooked,
被歧视 that they were discriminated against
遭到儿童保护部门非人的对待 and they were treated appallingly by protective services.
我觉得我们需要重新考虑 I think we need an absolute shift
如何定义可信证人 in what constitutes a reliable witness.
如我刚才所说 As I've already explained,
那些年轻人不会明显表现出 those young people do not present
受害者这一身份 as clear-cut victims.
他们不会明确说出 "我正遭到虐待" They don't clearly state, "I am being abused."
他们深陷于一系列可怕的 They are absolutely entrenched in a horrible set
操控和强迫 of manipulation and coercion.
他们活在深深的恐惧中 They are living in absolute fear,
他们不是典型受害人 所以司法体系 so they won't easily fit a box that allows a judicial system
无法轻易判断出 to easily see that
这个孩子正遭到虐待 this is a child that is being abused.
莎拉·罗伯森返回工作岗位 却发现自己被禁止参与处理以后的儿童诱奸事件
第二年 她被裁员
莎拉和同事采集到的原始证据 继续被用于起诉儿童性罪犯 最早可追溯到2003年
此事之后 吉姆致力于 提高人们防范儿童诱奸事件的意识
没有一个警察因2008年的在调查上的失职 而遭受惩戒
全英国的很多儿童诱奸案例开始被起诉 罗奇代尔 牛津 布里斯托 伦敦...
三个女孩